On FLTeach, there is a thread running on grading, always a hot topic………. well, not anymore. The battles are over apparently and the forced output crew won. And yet from time to time, do I see references to authors or practices that would belie this emphasis? I am not sure and will have to pay more attention. I may even strike (yes, I am still aggressive) when I see someone refer to CI or Krashen or VanPatten, etc. and ask what they think about the notion of forced output.