“People that say that facts are facts — they’re not really facts . . . there’s no such thing, unfortunately, anymore of facts. And so Mr. Trump’s tweet amongst a certain crowd . . . are truth.”
I heard this on Diane Rehm on Friday: I thought, wow! there’s Jim’s point, even though most words had to be followed by [sic].
“Mr. Trump’s tweet, amongst a certain crowd, a large — a large part of the population, are truth. When he says that millions of people illegally voted, he has some — in his — amongst him and his supporters, and people believe they have facts to back that up. Those that do not like Mr. Trump, they say that those are lies, and there’s no facts to back it up.”
Many of us, stuck in the old world, thought, wrongly, it turns out, that
“Facts are stubborn things,” said John Adams in 1770, defending British soldiers accused in the Boston Massacre, “and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” Well, that was 1770 and this is now…… I think.
Kellyanne Conway has it right, using a tried and true standard of truthfulness:
“He’s the president-elect, so that’s presidential behavior,” Conway said, using mind-bending pseudo-logic, reminiscent of the Nixonian “When the president does it, that means that it’s not illegal.” – from Margaret Sullivan’s column.
So see? It goes back to Nixon, a very truthful man.
To give Scottie Nell Hughes a fair shot at explicating this world view of hers, here is a fuller text of her statement on the Diane Rehm show:
SNH: well I think it’s also an idea of- of- of an opinion and- and that’s- on one hand I hear half the media saying
that these are lies
but on the other half there’re many people who go no it’s true
and so one thing that has been interesting this entire campaign season to watch
is that people that say facts are facts
they’re not really facts
everybody has a way- it’s kind of like looking at ratings or looking at a glass of half full water
everybody has a way of interpreting them
to be the truth
or not truth there’s- there’s no such thing unfortunately more of facts
and so mister Trump’s tweet amongst a certain crowd a large
uh a large m- a large part of the population
when he says that millions of people illegally voted
he has some ((fa- and see-)) in his- amongst him and his supporters
and people believe
they have facts to back that up
those that do not like mister Trump
they say that those are lies and there’s no facts to back it up
What is the evidence for the fact that Jim won? Trump won, that’s what. Now we all live in that world. BTW, I discovered that as a direct male descendant of someone born in Italy (my grandfather), I qualify immediately for Italian citizenship. Thinking….., thinking,….. thinking…..